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		<title>By: Raymundo Heimrich</title>
		<link>http://brettlive.com/2006/09/19/t-mobile-rebate-fraud-continues/#comment-2388</link>
		<dc:creator>Raymundo Heimrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Epictetus: We must not believe the many, who say that only free people ought to be educated, but we should rather believe the philosophers who say that only the educated are free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Epictetus: We must not believe the many, who say that only free people ought to be educated, but we should rather believe the philosophers who say that only the educated are free.</p>
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		<title>By: Rudy Regier</title>
		<link>http://brettlive.com/2006/09/19/t-mobile-rebate-fraud-continues/#comment-2384</link>
		<dc:creator>Rudy Regier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 20:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When constructing lead generation web sites, you really need to make the lead capture form as viewable as possible. Make it stand out and make sure your web site visitors know to fill it out. Use call to action�s to get them to submit the form.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When constructing lead generation web sites, you really need to make the lead capture form as viewable as possible. Make it stand out and make sure your web site visitors know to fill it out. Use call to action�s to get them to submit the form.</p>
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		<title>By: tower 200</title>
		<link>http://brettlive.com/2006/09/19/t-mobile-rebate-fraud-continues/#comment-2383</link>
		<dc:creator>tower 200</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 21:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will it work on any kind of scar or simply stretch marks?</description>
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		<title>By: A Lawyer</title>
		<link>http://brettlive.com/2006/09/19/t-mobile-rebate-fraud-continues/#comment-2374</link>
		<dc:creator>A Lawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UPDATE:  I finally received the $100 rebate card I was promised last summer.  It was late by the most recent representative&#039;s request that I allow another 30 days processing time, and I was about 24 hours away from filing a complaint with the Better Business Bureau.  But it popped up in my mail.  

So the moral of the story is perhaps that if you know you qualify and stick with it, you will probably eventually get your refund.  I put a lot of work into it, but it was worth it to me to take that $100 out of T-Mobile&#039;s pocket and to let everybody know via this blog and others that T-Mobile is trying to cheat people.  Good luck to everybody still stuck on the scam treadmill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UPDATE:  I finally received the $100 rebate card I was promised last summer.  It was late by the most recent representative&#8217;s request that I allow another 30 days processing time, and I was about 24 hours away from filing a complaint with the Better Business Bureau.  But it popped up in my mail.  </p>
<p>So the moral of the story is perhaps that if you know you qualify and stick with it, you will probably eventually get your refund.  I put a lot of work into it, but it was worth it to me to take that $100 out of T-Mobile&#8217;s pocket and to let everybody know via this blog and others that T-Mobile is trying to cheat people.  Good luck to everybody still stuck on the scam treadmill.</p>
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		<title>By: Etheline</title>
		<link>http://brettlive.com/2006/09/19/t-mobile-rebate-fraud-continues/#comment-2370</link>
		<dc:creator>Etheline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 20:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello. Very nice Post. Not really what i have searched over Google, but thanks for the information. Can you email me back, please. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello. Very nice Post. Not really what i have searched over Google, but thanks for the information. Can you email me back, please. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: JHAYLON MARSHALL</title>
		<link>http://brettlive.com/2006/09/19/t-mobile-rebate-fraud-continues/#comment-2368</link>
		<dc:creator>JHAYLON MARSHALL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PLEASE CAN YOU SEND ME A T-MOBILE PHONE</description>
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		<title>By: JHAYLON MARSHALL</title>
		<link>http://brettlive.com/2006/09/19/t-mobile-rebate-fraud-continues/#comment-2367</link>
		<dc:creator>JHAYLON MARSHALL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I LOVE T-MOBILE CELL PHONES</description>
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		<title>By: pissedoffcustomer</title>
		<link>http://brettlive.com/2006/09/19/t-mobile-rebate-fraud-continues/#comment-2361</link>
		<dc:creator>pissedoffcustomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 14:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i had the exact same thing happen to me. i also bought a blackberry pearl, was told i should fill the forms and send them to the address on it. i did. i called after 8 weeks and was told that they had no record of my information. so i went back to the store i bought the phone from and they gave  me a different address and told me to send it there. i did because thank goodness i had copies of everything. i waited another 8 weeks, nothing. i called them again and let the lady know that i had the copies of my transaction and everything but she still said that they had no record of my info. then went to the store and told them that the way i saw it, it was their fault because there was no record of my information yet i had the proof right there!!!!! they agreed that i should have received my rebate so they called them and the guy on the other side said that since it had been too long since i had bought the phone, there were no records of transactions from that time. it was in april 2009 when i bought the phone. i am a loyal customer, have always been but after this incident i cant stand to be with tmobile. they are unethical and i plan to get out of it... and so God help me i am going to do everything in my power to discourage everyone i know from tmobile. i already have discouraged all of my family and they haved moved to other companies and are happy. i am waiting for this months service to end so i can leave it. FUCK T MOBILE!!!!! i know they will get what they deserve someday!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i had the exact same thing happen to me. i also bought a blackberry pearl, was told i should fill the forms and send them to the address on it. i did. i called after 8 weeks and was told that they had no record of my information. so i went back to the store i bought the phone from and they gave  me a different address and told me to send it there. i did because thank goodness i had copies of everything. i waited another 8 weeks, nothing. i called them again and let the lady know that i had the copies of my transaction and everything but she still said that they had no record of my info. then went to the store and told them that the way i saw it, it was their fault because there was no record of my information yet i had the proof right there!!!!! they agreed that i should have received my rebate so they called them and the guy on the other side said that since it had been too long since i had bought the phone, there were no records of transactions from that time. it was in april 2009 when i bought the phone. i am a loyal customer, have always been but after this incident i cant stand to be with tmobile. they are unethical and i plan to get out of it&#8230; and so God help me i am going to do everything in my power to discourage everyone i know from tmobile. i already have discouraged all of my family and they haved moved to other companies and are happy. i am waiting for this months service to end so i can leave it. FUCK T MOBILE!!!!! i know they will get what they deserve someday!</p>
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		<title>By: A Lawyer</title>
		<link>http://brettlive.com/2006/09/19/t-mobile-rebate-fraud-continues/#comment-2358</link>
		<dc:creator>A Lawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 01:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It amuses me to see the bitter T-Mobile customer care and rebate employees posting about how stupid customers are for complaining about not receiving rebates to which they weren&#039;t entitled in the first place.  They post hateful comments about everyone&#039;s intelligence and amusing quips about how people should have read their contracts or not trusted the sales representative.

Well, I did read the contract.  I made it all the way through law school and can say assuredly that I am a great reader and even have reasonably decent comprehension skills.  I offer that information not to demonstrate that I am somehow superior to anyone, but to offer proof that I can indeed read a contract, as repeatedly suggested by the posts above, and that I am positive I understood the contract and the requirements for the rebate.  The nature of my problem is not that I did not qualify and am now angry that I was scammed.  I did qualify, T-Mobile acknowledged several times that I qualified, but will not provide the rebate.

I purchased a Blackberry Pearl on August 10, 2009, and met the conditions for the $100 rebate.  I submitted the requested documentation by mail on August 11, 2009.  I waited 8 weeks.  On October 13, 2009, I had not received the rebate.  I called the T-Mobile rebate center to discuss the problem and was connected to a young lady so mentally slow it amazed me she had figured out how to answer the phone.  Usually those dear people with such limits are relegated to tasks that don&#039;t require problem solving skills-- like greeters at Walmart or grocery sackers.  Kudos to the T-Mobile rebate center for bringing them into their workforce as phone representatives.  

Over and over we ticked through the list of requirements to earn the rebate.  As she named off one, I read from my receipt the entry showing I&#039;d purchased it.  We checked off each item and I had every necessary element for the rebate.  This sad little dolt agreed that I appeared to qualify based on what I read from my receipt and her incredible feat of computer research into my account, but somehow could not make the transition to explaining why my rebate was denied.  It just was.

I decided that I needed to have these conversations via email in order to preserve the record of T-Mobile&#039;s refusal to grant the rebate I earned and was promised.  I began by emailing a bullet pointed list of the rebate requirements and confirmation that I had met each one.  I encouraged the reader to investigate and report back to me.  The next day I received an email from &quot;Michelle D.&quot; simply saying I didn&#039;t qualify.

Hoping to point out her error, I scanned copies of my rebate documentation and added in color shading to highlight the rebate qualifying purchases.  Children&#039;s toys are always colorful and have big numbers and letters on them, so I knew this tactic would work in getting their attention.  I attached the scanned documents to a reply email with text very simply and clearly laying out my case for the audience of witless elementary school level individuals receiving it.  I prayed the reader would be competent enough to open the attachments.

Two days later I received in return, another email from &quot;Michelle D.&quot; acknowledging that I did indeed qualify for the rebate and apologizing for the confusion.  She claimed the rebate would be authorized and that I should wait another 6-8 weeks.

That &quot;another 6-8 weeks&quot; is now.  I still don&#039;t have the rebate.  I checked the website and saw the rebate promised to me via Michelle D&#039;s email on October 15, 2009, had been denied on October 22, 2009.  Again I received nothing from T-Mobile explaining this.  I assume they rely on people forgetting and wouldn&#039;t want to alert someone that they are being scammed by sending a letter explaining that they are being scammed.

I called and spoke to &quot;Martha&quot;.  She was kind but still an unnecessarily slow thinker.  After sorting through my entire account in detail, she pressed me AT THE END of the call to confirm more personal information to verify my identity.  That defeats the purpose, dear sweet Martha.  One confirms a caller&#039;s identity BEFORE releasing private account information, honey.  Got it a little out of order, but you can try again next time and do better.  At any rate she too agreed that I qualified for the $100 rebate, was mystified that it had twice been denied and said she would manually override the system to see that it was issued and in my hands within 30 days.  Sounds like a complicated transaction for you, Martha, but I&#039;m counting on you.

I&#039;m no psychiatrist, but solely based on the conversations I&#039;ve had with the T-Mobile rebate representatives, they couldn&#039;t collectively figure out how (or why) to pull a hand off a red hot stove.  So will my rebate finally come?  I don&#039;t know.  But I&#039;ve tried.  I haven&#039;t cursed or been discourteous or raised my voice as some of the earlier T-Mobile posters said is to blame for bad service.  I know it isn&#039;t their fault they were lobotomized or have water on the brain or had pre-natal oxygen deprivation or whatever.  I just keep patiently plodding along.  Waiting.  It&#039;s the principle.  And if that rebate ever comes, I&#039;m going straight to the Association of Retarded Citizens (ARC) thrift shop to spend it.  That money&#039;s coming right back to you T-Mobile rebate reprsentatives! Because I care!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It amuses me to see the bitter T-Mobile customer care and rebate employees posting about how stupid customers are for complaining about not receiving rebates to which they weren&#8217;t entitled in the first place.  They post hateful comments about everyone&#8217;s intelligence and amusing quips about how people should have read their contracts or not trusted the sales representative.</p>
<p>Well, I did read the contract.  I made it all the way through law school and can say assuredly that I am a great reader and even have reasonably decent comprehension skills.  I offer that information not to demonstrate that I am somehow superior to anyone, but to offer proof that I can indeed read a contract, as repeatedly suggested by the posts above, and that I am positive I understood the contract and the requirements for the rebate.  The nature of my problem is not that I did not qualify and am now angry that I was scammed.  I did qualify, T-Mobile acknowledged several times that I qualified, but will not provide the rebate.</p>
<p>I purchased a Blackberry Pearl on August 10, 2009, and met the conditions for the $100 rebate.  I submitted the requested documentation by mail on August 11, 2009.  I waited 8 weeks.  On October 13, 2009, I had not received the rebate.  I called the T-Mobile rebate center to discuss the problem and was connected to a young lady so mentally slow it amazed me she had figured out how to answer the phone.  Usually those dear people with such limits are relegated to tasks that don&#8217;t require problem solving skills&#8211; like greeters at Walmart or grocery sackers.  Kudos to the T-Mobile rebate center for bringing them into their workforce as phone representatives.  </p>
<p>Over and over we ticked through the list of requirements to earn the rebate.  As she named off one, I read from my receipt the entry showing I&#8217;d purchased it.  We checked off each item and I had every necessary element for the rebate.  This sad little dolt agreed that I appeared to qualify based on what I read from my receipt and her incredible feat of computer research into my account, but somehow could not make the transition to explaining why my rebate was denied.  It just was.</p>
<p>I decided that I needed to have these conversations via email in order to preserve the record of T-Mobile&#8217;s refusal to grant the rebate I earned and was promised.  I began by emailing a bullet pointed list of the rebate requirements and confirmation that I had met each one.  I encouraged the reader to investigate and report back to me.  The next day I received an email from &#8220;Michelle D.&#8221; simply saying I didn&#8217;t qualify.</p>
<p>Hoping to point out her error, I scanned copies of my rebate documentation and added in color shading to highlight the rebate qualifying purchases.  Children&#8217;s toys are always colorful and have big numbers and letters on them, so I knew this tactic would work in getting their attention.  I attached the scanned documents to a reply email with text very simply and clearly laying out my case for the audience of witless elementary school level individuals receiving it.  I prayed the reader would be competent enough to open the attachments.</p>
<p>Two days later I received in return, another email from &#8220;Michelle D.&#8221; acknowledging that I did indeed qualify for the rebate and apologizing for the confusion.  She claimed the rebate would be authorized and that I should wait another 6-8 weeks.</p>
<p>That &#8220;another 6-8 weeks&#8221; is now.  I still don&#8217;t have the rebate.  I checked the website and saw the rebate promised to me via Michelle D&#8217;s email on October 15, 2009, had been denied on October 22, 2009.  Again I received nothing from T-Mobile explaining this.  I assume they rely on people forgetting and wouldn&#8217;t want to alert someone that they are being scammed by sending a letter explaining that they are being scammed.</p>
<p>I called and spoke to &#8220;Martha&#8221;.  She was kind but still an unnecessarily slow thinker.  After sorting through my entire account in detail, she pressed me AT THE END of the call to confirm more personal information to verify my identity.  That defeats the purpose, dear sweet Martha.  One confirms a caller&#8217;s identity BEFORE releasing private account information, honey.  Got it a little out of order, but you can try again next time and do better.  At any rate she too agreed that I qualified for the $100 rebate, was mystified that it had twice been denied and said she would manually override the system to see that it was issued and in my hands within 30 days.  Sounds like a complicated transaction for you, Martha, but I&#8217;m counting on you.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m no psychiatrist, but solely based on the conversations I&#8217;ve had with the T-Mobile rebate representatives, they couldn&#8217;t collectively figure out how (or why) to pull a hand off a red hot stove.  So will my rebate finally come?  I don&#8217;t know.  But I&#8217;ve tried.  I haven&#8217;t cursed or been discourteous or raised my voice as some of the earlier T-Mobile posters said is to blame for bad service.  I know it isn&#8217;t their fault they were lobotomized or have water on the brain or had pre-natal oxygen deprivation or whatever.  I just keep patiently plodding along.  Waiting.  It&#8217;s the principle.  And if that rebate ever comes, I&#8217;m going straight to the Association of Retarded Citizens (ARC) thrift shop to spend it.  That money&#8217;s coming right back to you T-Mobile rebate reprsentatives! Because I care!</p>
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		<title>By: cocorico48</title>
		<link>http://brettlive.com/2006/09/19/t-mobile-rebate-fraud-continues/#comment-2356</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had similar experience just yesterday Dec. 10 2009.

I have been t-mobile customer without contract for 4-5 years.  My phone finally broke down and I wanted to get new cheap/free phone, and I ribbed off.

There are two lines on my family plan.  The number that I got a free phone is samsung t819, and it turns out to be 79.99 even I have talked to the representative and said I want this &quot;free phone&quot;(both according to t-mobile under my account, and talking to the rep.)  It required me to do a mail-in rebate for that $50.00 which I had no idea that I had to do.  Plus, on the rebate form, it states it requires a 9.99 or higher data-plan serivce.  Otherwise, I will not get the rebate.

When I called t-mobile customer rep., that person told me that the other customer rep I talked to who put in my order has no idea about this rebate would require the 9.99 or higher data-plan serivce, so here is what he said, &quot;I understand it may seem like we&#039;ve tricked you...&quot;  But the fact is, THEY DID.  

By reading so many people&#039;s comments/complains all the way back to a few years ago, I am sure this is nothing new.  However, the rebate thing still stinks.

I will call them again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had similar experience just yesterday Dec. 10 2009.</p>
<p>I have been t-mobile customer without contract for 4-5 years.  My phone finally broke down and I wanted to get new cheap/free phone, and I ribbed off.</p>
<p>There are two lines on my family plan.  The number that I got a free phone is samsung t819, and it turns out to be 79.99 even I have talked to the representative and said I want this &#8220;free phone&#8221;(both according to t-mobile under my account, and talking to the rep.)  It required me to do a mail-in rebate for that $50.00 which I had no idea that I had to do.  Plus, on the rebate form, it states it requires a 9.99 or higher data-plan serivce.  Otherwise, I will not get the rebate.</p>
<p>When I called t-mobile customer rep., that person told me that the other customer rep I talked to who put in my order has no idea about this rebate would require the 9.99 or higher data-plan serivce, so here is what he said, &#8220;I understand it may seem like we&#8217;ve tricked you&#8230;&#8221;  But the fact is, THEY DID.  </p>
<p>By reading so many people&#8217;s comments/complains all the way back to a few years ago, I am sure this is nothing new.  However, the rebate thing still stinks.</p>
<p>I will call them again.</p>
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